<div dir="ltr"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><i>"The Optional
split is being added in 2.6"</i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">To clarify: what we
currently have is "The optional split"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">the forced split will be added in 2.6.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I think the forced split should just be called: "Split", no
need to add anything to it since it just “Splits” the verse, fairly self-explanatory.<span></span></font></p>
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As for the “Optional split”, something like: “Overflow split”, “Optional split”,
“Situational split” or “Smart split” could work.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Alternatively, the forced split could be called “Page-break”, which is
the universal meaning for forcing the text to the next page in text editors. “Optional
split” could then be “Situational Break” or something like that.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br>
The button texts shouldn’t be too long and the meaning could be further
explained in mouse over hint/manual.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><font color="#ff9900">"my wife
suggested "Auto Split"</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%">I don’t like “Auto Split”, because the splits must be manually inserted by the
user, to me “Auto” means that OpenLP handles the splitting, not the user. <span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%">Ideally
OpenLP would have the option of splitting verses automatically from the middle
instead of last row that fits. (So 10 row verse becomes 5 and 5 rows instead of
9 & 1 for example.)<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><span><br></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%">Cheers,<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="line-height:107%">Olli / Azaziah<span style="font-size:12pt"></span></span></p></div><div><font size="1"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 August 2017 at 16:05, Tim and Alison Bentley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Home@trarbentley.net" target="_blank">Home@trarbentley.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>To answer Ians question.</div><div dir="auto">Optional split will split a verse only when it needs to be split due to a slide not being able to fit the display. At present with out this the last line would be added to a new slide. This is needed when songs run on different text sizes and display sizes.</div><div dir="auto">The Optional split is being added in 2.6 and will allow a verse to be kept in section in the editor but then split at run time. For example for us a hymn of 8 lines would kept in 2 verses as we display only 6 lines per screen. Now we could store this in one verse and with the split decide at run time to create two verses.<div><div class="gmail-h5"><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 Aug 2017 13:54, "Ian Knight" <<a href="mailto:ieknight1101@gmail.com" target="_blank">ieknight1101@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail-m_-867880049417897571quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Perhaps something like "Insert Auto-Break" and "Split Verse"<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-867880049417897571m_8306083722833747906moz-cite-prefix">On 25/08/17 22:19, Lane Lester wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)">I
confess I have no idea what the Optional Split does (what?
read the doc?). The only splitting I do is to add a second <span style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">---[Verse:1]--- to split a long verse into two screens.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">The Optional Split button inserts </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">[---] which doesn't seem to do anything. There's no Divide button, so I guess that's in newer code than I have.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">From what you wrote, I assume the Divide (Force Split) does the same thing I accomplish by duplicating the label as described in my first paragraph above.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Side note: I read somewhere that it's not good to have more than six lines on the screen, for the viewers' sake. So I've been splitting long verses as I get to them.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:40 AM,
Raoul Snyman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raoul@snyman.info" target="_blank">raoul@snyman.info</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hey guys and gals,<br>
<br>
As some folks are aware, we've had an ongoing saga about
the "Optional Split" button in the song editor. Many
people seem to think that it meant that a particular verse
would be split at that particular location every time (no
matter if there was or wasn't enough space in the slide).
Along the way we've had people ask for a way to force a
verse to split (much like some people expect the optional
split to work).<br>
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Between Olli and Tim, they've implemented the second split
option. This is great, but I'm not sure that the current
nomenclature for the buttons is correct.<br>
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Currently, the buttons are labelled "Optional Split" and
"Divide". After some careful thought, my wife suggested
"Auto Split" and "Force Split". Does anyone have any other
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